A thought-provoking interview was recently conducted between Project Unity host Jay Anderson and U.S. Congressman Andy Ogles. The discussion focused on the implications of full disclosure of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). Anderson asked Congressman Ogles serious questions about UFOs, revealing that the release of extraterrestrial technology could potentially disrupt the world economy and energy sector.
Rep. Andy Ogles spoke about the difficulty of gathering information due to the compartmentalization of special access bills, emphasizing the need for a methodical and persistent approach to uncovering the truth. In the interview, he expressed concern about UFOs operating in both military and commercial airspace, raising questions about potential threats to national security. He said, “I’m not going to assume that I know what it may or may not be. What I do know is that there is a national security issue here.”
He considers several possibilities, including the involvement of experimental aircraft, joint ventures, or foreign adversaries. He emphasizes the importance of avoiding predetermined conclusions and encourages an open-minded investigation to determine the true nature of the UAP phenomenon.
When asked about his personal understanding of UFOs, Rep. Ogles speaks of the hope that it may be advanced technology possessed by the United States. He says, “My hope would be… some new technology that we possess… would put us in the next generation ahead of our adversaries.” However, he acknowledges the mysterious aspects of UFOs, saying that they appear to “defy physics.”
Representative Ogles then considers the energy implications of the advanced propulsion technology displayed by UAPs. He wonders about the amount of energy required for such rapid movement and how this could impact the energy sector.
He says: “That said, these UAPs seem to defy physics. They seem to have some kind of propulsion technology that is unknown to man as we understand it. So what does that do to the energy sector? If there’s a new way of thinking about the amount of energy required to take a hovering craft and suddenly reach Mach 1 in a matter of seconds – the human body can’t sustain that as we understand it, right? So that craft would have to have next-level technology to protect the tissues, so to speak, or it would be a type of unmanned craft. Again, there are a lot of questions that need to be investigated. But if this propulsion technology and this energy capability exists, not only are we in a renaissance when it comes to aircraft, but we’re in a renaissance in terms of propulsion and energy production. So again, huge implications across the economic scale, both nationally and internationally.”
He mentions his committee investigations into the DOE (Department of Energy), suggesting that it could be an ideal location to house top-secret technology. He says, “If you’re going to house top-secret, next-level technology, what better place to have it and house it than… nuclear facilities.”
“Everybody knows about Area 51. It’s a testing ground… You have this super-secret, super-secure facility that, again, would be ideal to have and house some new emerging technology that we want to fully harness for ourselves and frankly control. Because again when we look at the next generation of warfare, it’s not just tanks and planes. It’s drones. It’s unmanned aircraft. It’s economics. There’s a lot that’s going to happen as we move forward as a superpower and gain competitive advantage on the global stage.”
Later in the interview, Jay Anderson brings up Congressman Burchett’s positive impression of David Grusch’s testimony with confidential reports. Rep. Ogles says that reliable sources attest to Grusch’s reliability. He suggests taking Grusch at his word, thinking carefully about it, and not trying to say he’s wrong without good evidence. Ogles says it’s important to keep an open mind, focus on getting answers, and not try to find fault without good reason.
Representative Ogles explains that unanimous support from Congress is not required, but rather the will of the speaker to initiate action. He emphasizes the bipartisan interest in addressing the issue and expresses the need for a select committee to ensure transparency and accountability in the investigation. He, along with Congressman Burchett, acknowledges the likelihood of a multi-decade cover-up or compartmentalization due to the secret nature of Special Access Programs (SAPs) and classified information related to national security.
When asked about evidence suggesting reverse engineering or more exotic propositions, Rep. Ogles mentions the classification of such information and the need for careful consideration. He discusses questions about the origin of the technology, whether it is our own creation or recovered from elsewhere, and the potential for reverse engineering.
Stephen Bassett, the only registered lobbyist in Washington and founder of Paradigm Research Group, shares the same concerns that the disclosure of UFOs will have serious implications for the world economy.
The PRG researchers claim to know why US authorities were hiding information about UFOs. According to them, the release of UFO data would lead to the collapse of the entire world economy. Bassett added that all so-called “flying saucers” do not use oil, gasoline, gas or coal. “They have a different energy system. Certainly a much more complex and profound system based on antigravity,” he said.
“Some programs have been taken out of the jurisdiction of the White House and Congress and are operating somewhere very, very deep, in a ‘hidden’ way,” the researcher emphasized. “I guarantee you that when the head of state finally officially admits this fact and presents evidence, people will start to worry and want to know more.” But even if the economy stops developing in its current form, new opportunities will arise, Bassett believes.
During an interview with uInterview he said that UFOs are not unidentified flying objects, as the acronym suggests, but rather alternative energy and propulsion devices. The technology behind UFOs was heavily studied by a team led by Dr. Vannevar Bush in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, and in 1954, they developed what is known as “gravity control” and “zero-point energy.”
[Editor’s note] In January 2015, former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell emailed Podesta asking for an urgent meeting to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy (ZPE). He was concerned about peace in space. Mitchell wrote: “My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there as well, to update us on the Vatican’s awareness of ZPE. Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing engagement with Russia and China. However, with Russia’s extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another path to peace in space and ZPE on Earth.”
However, Dr. Greer stated that secrecy surrounding this technology went off the rails and became deeply embedded in compartmentalized intelligence operations, causing President Eisenhower to become frustrated at being denied information about the projects.
“The problem has become, and this is what President Eisenhower warned us about, that secrecy has become so entangled and compartmentalized in intelligence operations that even he as president has lost control of it,” said Dr.
He further stated: “One of our military witnesses, he was a young man who worked in the White House – who I’m watching from my home here in Washington – he told us, Mr. Lubkin, who is a lawyer, said that Eisenhower was very frustrated because he was being denied information about the projects that controlled this issue. So the secrecy went off the rails and turned into these unacknowledged special access projects.”
Disclosure of UFOs would mean the end of oil, gas, coal and utilities, as the technology would completely transform the world. Those with trillions of dollars invested in these industries would not be thrilled about this possibility. That is the reason for the secrecy, which has been maintained for 70 years, according to Dr. Greer.
